Time to ban SUV adverts

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I just do my best to keep up with the other posts on here!

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What determines that a car is an SUV? I know what SUV stands for but where does the sport part come into it? Is a Landrover defender an SUV? Or a Lada Niva 4x4? If not what is? I'm genuinely confused. I thought it was a marketing thing.

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I like this definition from the Urban Dictionary:
Suv
Sport Utility Vehicle. Neither a sport vehicle nor a utility vehicle. A whack, fakeass (and successful) attempt by the motor vehicle industry to lure in overpaid middle class workaholic moms who think that they need a 3 ton vehicle to carry their stupid kids to soccer practice.
I thought I'd read somewhere that the 'S' stood for Suburban, but that might be a tie-in with the above definition.
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coconier wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:34 pm
For Ally
https://www.buyacar.co.uk/cars/family-c ... -is-an-suv
Reading that, I don't get the all out hostility towards them from some quarters. There are pros and cons as with every vehicle.

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Jackie wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:44 am
Fitter wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:55 am
So who are the "New Weather Institute" and what expertise do they bring to the zerocarbonclimateclownz campaign?

The "associates".

David Boyle -- economist
Sarah Burns -- designer of prints
Lindsay Mackie -- journalist
Andrew Simms -- author/campaigner
Sarah Woods - playwright/ creates performances

Assuming these people are the sole representatives/directors of the New Weather Institute, how much notice should anybody take of their advice?
bout as much notice as the dubiously authored links you post perhaps?
But I never link to the Guardian - the worst fake news site on the internet!
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Fitter wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:26 am
But I never link to the Guardian - the worst fake news site on the internet!
From the member who made this post: viewtopic.php?p=174419#p174419
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Ally wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:52 pm
What determines that a car is an SUV? I know what SUV stands for but where does the sport part come into it? Is a Landrover defender an SUV? Or a Lada Niva 4x4? If not what is? I'm genuinely confused. I thought it was a marketing thing.
It is

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The roots of the SUV lie in the U.S. Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFÉ standards of 1975 which were introduced in the wake of the oil crisis as a way to regulate the average fuel economy of cars and trucks.

Station wagons however (as they were called then) were classified as cars which meant they were held to a higher standard for fuel efficiency than minivans and other light trucks and many had a hard time complying.

That incentivised manufacturers to develop and market more truck based vehicles which over time have morphed into today's SUV's and Chelsea Tractors.

The 'Sports' element was nothing more than a marketing ploy as it sounds so much posher than simply Utility Vehicle!

A product of the laws of unintended consequences then - much like Breshite!
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Interesting. thanks for that. And the mention of trucks (pickups) goes some way to explain the popularity of them in the US. One might get the impression that most Americans are redneck pickup jockeys these days with the huge numbers seen in front of houses in affluent neighbourhoods (in films and TV).
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