Why are women so subordinate

[Ally]

It doesn't seem to me that women are subordinate. A number have replied on this thread despite no permission being given to do so.

[mysty]

This is called "begging the question".

The question "Why are woman so subordinate in this day in age, 90% of woman take their husbands name?" contains an assumption, that a wife taking her husband's name is an example of subordination (not sure that's the right word). But that assumption is plainly incorrect, because women don't have to do this: it's a choice they make.

In the article it says
Patriarchy and resistance

We found that patriarchal power has not gone away. In England, for example, some husbands made marriage conditional on their wives taking their name. 

Doesn't look like it's always their choice.

[Stompie]

Does anyone know any men who have taken their wife's name?

[suein56]

After my dad died his sister used to write to my mum letters addressed to Mrs R ***** ,except my mums initial was K ,R was my dad so she wasn’t even entitled to her own name in Auntie Marys eyes

When I was in junior school I was taught it was 'correct' to address a widow in the way your Aunt Mary did with your mum, so, depending on Aunt Mary's age, it could simply be a question of what your Aunt learnt at school.
Sending a Xmas card to a very elderly friend in the UK I always used to address it in the 'correct' way as she saw it as respect for her dead husband and respect for her position as his widow.

[TriciaF]

One way I don't mind being 'subservient' to men is that I don't want to be sent off to fight in wars. Nowadays some women do join the forces though.
Changing name after marriage - I could be wrong, but I think in England land ownership could never be passed on to women. Whereas in France (since Napoleon) it can.

[Elizabeth]

Does anyone know any men who have taken their wife's name?

Yes I do,one who preferred her name to his and one who hyphenated the two

[Flaneur]

Does anyone know any men who have taken their wife's name?

I know one who did something similar, though he just appended the second part of her name to his. I won't mention his name, but if Dan Lakin married Sue England and Dan did the same thing, he would be calling himself Dan Lakin-Land.

I don't think she did the same.

The origins of a wife using the same surname as her husband are probably "patriarchal", though "patriarchal" is always used nowadays - in a sort of student politics, right-on, fight the system, Freedom for Tooting way - pejoratively. For most people, the idea that it's to do with subordination is risible. It's more to do with leaving one family and creating another, and it's sad that some people might view such a positive thing as getting married as a power struggle.

The Spanish do it differently, of course.

Changing name after marriage - I could be wrong, but I think in England land ownership could never be passed on to women.

That used to be the case; it changed in the late C19.

[jsks]

Does anyone know any men who have taken their wife's name?

Yes.

Call me Janice.

[jsks]

Historically Mrs was an abbreviation of Mistress of.

So Mrs John Smith referred to Mrs Smith as a possession. You still see things addressed to Mr and Mrs John Smith when I suppose it should be Mr John and Mrs Janet Smith.

Its one of those examples of subconscious institutionalised sexism which is almost never questioned.

[Flaneur]

You still see things addressed to Mr and Mrs John Smith when I suppose it should be Mr John and Mrs Janet Smith.

That always looks quaint to me.