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We have at least two resident hedgehogs here which is great for the garden, they seem to do a grand job of keeping the slugs under control.
We also have a couple of toads who live in the cellar but come up to the door at night and wind Spot up.
Last night when I let Spot out for his last pee one of the hedgehogs was eating a huge toad. Apparently it's not uncommon but I was amazed!
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Do you think the hog had killed it, or was scavenging a dead one? I know both can be slow, toads don't jump like frogs, but it seems a bit unlikely.

Sadly, in spite of having a very hedgehog friendly garden, lots of wild places, undergrowth and spaces under fencing, I haven't seen a hedgehog in it since my Greyhound was barking at one 15 years or so ago. About that time since I saw a very large toad too. It was flattened under a rock that I moved and I thought it was dead, but after a few seconds it puffed itself up and ambled away.

I have seen frogspawn in the upper, deeper, pond, but no sightings of frogs.

Plenty of marbled newts though, both adult and juvenile, and the small coulevre was sunning itself on a rock the other day before sliding off and swimming away.

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Stompie wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:43 am
We have at least two resident hedgehogs here which is great for the garden, they seem to do a grand job of keeping the slugs under control.
We also have a couple of toads who live in the cellar but come up to the door at night and wind Spot up.
Last night when I let Spot out for his last pee one of the hedgehogs was eating a huge toad. Apparently it's not uncommon but I was amazed! Image
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Lucky you. I haven't seen a hedgehog here for years. Toads, yes. Isn't it odd how they make their way to doors. They do the same here. One of the cats recently showed me a toad she had found. I managed to get it off her, unharmed, and released it somewhere I hope was safer.

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My cross-terrier has an almost nightly battle with the resident hedgehog at the moment So I let him out and then slip out unnoticed my self. If he is at the hog he gets a warning gentle whack whilst the hog is rolled onto a shovel and gently deposited over the fence. Always gone the next morning but always comes back for more. Which might because of the drought and the shortage of food. As my garden is watered regularly, there might be more squashy, nasty things about. Certainly the thrushes do well out of it.

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Spardo wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:08 pm
Do you think the hog had killed it, or was scavenging a dead one? I know both can be slow, toads don't jump like frogs, but it seems a bit unlikely.

Sadly, in spite of having a very hedgehog friendly garden, lots of wild places, undergrowth and spaces under fencing, I haven't seen a hedgehog in it since my Greyhound was barking at one 15 years or so ago. About that time since I saw a very large toad too. It was flattened under a rock that I moved and I thought it was dead, but after a few seconds it puffed itself up and ambled away.

I have seen frogspawn in the upper, deeper, pond, but no sightings of frogs.

Plenty of marbled newts though, both adult and juvenile, and the small coulevre was sunning itself on a rock the other day before sliding off and swimming away.
I'm as certain as I can be that the hedgehog was the killer, it was about two feet from the toad's normal route to the doorstep.

I had forgotten just what hedgehogs would predate - remember the campaign a few years ago to remove them from some of the Western Isles as they were a serious threat to some ground nesting birds.

Timoth, I haven't seen a thrush in the garden, they're one of the birds I miss and we have plenty of snails for them!

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They are a real delight, Stompie, scooting round the garden, smashing shells on the terrace, relatively tame. I expect to see the tailless youngsters staggering round the garden soon. Will have to watch the dog there.

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Stompie wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:47 pm

I'm as certain as I can be that the hedgehog was the killer, it was about two feet from the toad's normal route to the doorstep.

I had forgotten just what hedgehogs would predate - remember the campaign a few years ago to remove them from some of the Western Isles as they were a serious threat to some ground nesting birds.

Timoth, I haven't seen a thrush in the garden, they're one of the birds I miss and we have plenty of snails for them!
I thought the hedgehog threat was to the eggs, not the actual hatched birds, but I could have got it wrong. They were rightly removed there, though not, thankfully, killed, because they were an introduced, not native, species.

Unlike the Cane Toads in Queensland, and still in Australia, rabbits, cats. A nightmare for the locals. But too late when realised to do anything about it.

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I'd like to catch whatever it was that had my last laying hen two nights ago. :evil: She was a fat so and so and I don't see how the predator managed to get her out of the hole it chewed in the wire netting.
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Aardvark wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:05 pm
I'd like to catch whatever it was that had my last laying hen two nights ago. :evil: She was a fat so and so and I don't see how the predator managed to get her out of the hole it chewed in the wire netting.
Poor chook. They're vulnerable to so many things. One of my neighbours here lost nine in one night to a badger and a friend in Scotland reckoned a pine marten took hers.

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Maybe the toad was already dead or poorly?
We also had a large toad which came in in the evening as the outside door was always open in warm weather. It liked to sit in the dog's drinking bowl, perhaps dehydrated?

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