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Re: Homeless folk

Post by Joeblck » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:14 pm

Good to see the folks demonstrating in London yesterday in regard to the homelessness situation,not that I think it will change things.Also good to see empty office space being turned into squats after being empty for five years!
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Re: Homeless folk

Post by mysty » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:33 pm

Squatting is not a long term answer though. No idea what rents must be like in London but I would have thought they would be out of reach for the average salary. You will never have cheap homes again, that's gone.
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Re: Homeless folk

Post by DominicBest » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:32 pm

mysty1 wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:33 pm
Squatting is not a long term answer though. No idea what rents must be like in London but I would have thought they would be out of reach for the average salary. You will never have cheap homes again, that's gone.
London rents? My son and his girlfriend rent a one room flat with a mezzanine be area, bathroom and kitchen in Shepherds’ Bush and pat £1560 every four weeks.

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Re: Homeless folk

Post by Debra » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:42 am

Kathyc wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:49 am
mysty1 wrote:
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Elstow I am sure there will be 1000 s of Brits living in Francei on less than 1000 a month. When we first came here 20 something years ago we could live for next to nothing. We had no income.
Most of the French people living on that income will be paying rent or a mortgage, something that Brits on a low income are unlikely to be doing - that's the difference.
People on that income would get allocation logement here to help out though - and that's whether they rent or have a mortgage, whereas in the UK you can only get housing benefit if you rent.

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Re: Homeless folk

Post by Aardvark » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:02 am

mysty1 wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:52 am
Elstow I am sure there will be 1000 s of Brits living in Francei on less than 1000 a month. When we first came here 20 something years ago we could live for next to nothing. We had no income.
Correct! Things certainly have gotten more expensive over the last 15-20 years but I am still managing on not quite a full state pension. One thing is certain. I would most likely be homeless if I was forced back to the UK.
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Re: Homeless folk

Post by Aardvark » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:08 am

Anyone wanting a little more info should start watching "Can't pay, we'll take it away" and "The sheriffs are coming" on UK TV. Apart from the individual cases of rent arrears and unpaid debts there are statistics quoted between each one that show a depressing view of what is really going on. Individuals, small and medium size businesses are so close to the edge it doesn't take much to fall off the cliff edge. Much like the whole UK/Brexit effect.
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Re: Homeless folk

Post by Andy72 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:11 am

I have just been listening to the UK housing minister on Today and the phrase “ building more houses shouldn’t force down prices” stuck in my head.
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Re: Homeless folk

Post by rabbit » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:42 am

When the UK net immigration level is 300,000 and the number of new homes being built is 150,000, then multiply this by the number of years that this situation has pertained, then it is no wonder that there is a housing shortage and a high number of homeless. The governments, both conservative and labour should have taken action many years ago. Or is it because too many MPs have property and they like the idea of a shortage that causes their house values to rise?
I'm just back from a trip to the UK. I was appalled by the number of homeless, the state of the pot-holed roads and the fact that the major hospital in the city I was visiting was on Red Alert as it was having to turn away the sick through lack of capacity.

A country that boasts about being the second largest contributor to NATO (after the USA) and cannot look after its sick, or repair its roads, or hous its population has got its priorities wrong and I mean Labour as well as Conservative (IMHO).

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Re: Homeless folk

Post by CelticRambler » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:56 am

rabbit wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:42 am
A country that boasts about being the second largest contributor to NATO (after the USA) and cannot look after its sick, or repair its roads, or hous its population has got its priorities wrong ...
From what I've been reading lately, the first largest contributor to NATO has exactly the same wonky priorities, but hey, a grand military parade will cheer everyone up ... :roll:

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Re: Homeless folk

Post by Kathyc » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:59 am

Debra wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:42 am
Kathyc wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:49 am
mysty1 wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:52 am
Elstow I am sure there will be 1000 s of Brits living in Francei on less than 1000 a month. When we first came here 20 something years ago we could live for next to nothing. We had no income.
Most of the French people living on that income will be paying rent or a mortgage, something that Brits on a low income are unlikely to be doing - that's the difference.
People on that income would get allocation logement here to help out though - and that's whether they rent or have a mortgage, whereas in the UK you can only get housing benefit if you rent.
Thanks, would they get all their rent paid or just a top up?

In the UK you can get SMI if you have a mortgage, although it's changing to being a loan now.

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