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Windows 10: update problems again

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Not for the first time I decided to wait before updating my little W 10 laptop, continuing to use my reliable HP workhorse (W 7 pro), laptop also, type: luggable.

Something went wrong, very wrong with the last update. More information here, Tomsguide.

In the past I always kept my fingers crossed everytime I upgraded a BIOS: too easy to cripple a desktop or laptop during this operation. Please, no brown-outs or black-outs. Nowadays the Mcrosoft guys are more confident, from our fingers never a dodgy code, let's upgrade every UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface, the modern en more complex BIOS) on this globe, bypassing and rewriting specialised code provided by manufacturers with our KB4524244 update to patch a possible security issue. HP and DELL - their lines of business laptops for the corporate environment - not pleased at all.

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I guess it's not very helpful to suggest Linux Mint - at least not until you have undone whatever MS messed up this month - and it was a bit of a mess once again.

Another useful resource is - https://www.askwoody.com/

Looks like Credge is about to mess things up as well - hopefully MS will get slapped with another legal suit over that.

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And not only software problems, the Surface Laptop 3 has some display problems. My Stanley blue strike claw hammer is still doing what it is supposed to do, without any update in the last 20 years.

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thanks for the warning. I updated last week without any problems, but it is nice to know.

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RobertArthur wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:23 pm
And not only software problems, the Surface Laptop 3 has some display problems. My Stanley blue strike claw hammer is still doing what it is supposed to do, without any update in the last 20 years.
Perhaps we have found a new target for your Stanley - you know what they say - to a man with a hammer everything looks like a nail.

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RobertArthur wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:13 pm
Windows 10: update problems again........
Goes without saying really, its always very scary if your windows machine is important.....I don't do windows unless I have to :lol:

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I find this thread interesting in that I have 2 laptops .. one Win 7 completely without any Windows updates for the last 6 years .. as I got so fed up with MS screwing up my laptop when I needed to use it for my teaching lessons. Result . . a laptop which functions just fine and has up-to-date browsers, anti- virus and malware blaster (not needed as yet) but nowt at all from MS for years and years.
My other laptop .. a Win 10 .. which, for the most part is also just fine, but occasionally throws me a wobbly by doing smthg I don't expect and, that mostly, at a most inconvenient moment, due to the omnipresent updates.
For the moment I am contemplating .. but, eventually, I will have to make a decision.
Linux seems to be the way to go for me as I really cannot stomach Apple .. it is more to do with their ethos as I am aware of their robustness .. but I just do not like them .. any more than I like Jeff Bezos.
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suein56 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:01 pm
I find this thread interesting in that I have 2 laptops .. one Win 7 completely without any Windows updates for the last 6 years .. as I got so fed up with MS screwing up my laptop when I needed to use it for my teaching lessons. Result . . a laptop which functions just fine and has up-to-date browsers, anti- virus and malware blaster (not needed as yet) but nowt at all from MS for years and years.
My other laptop .. a Win 10 .. which, for the most part is also just fine, but occasionally throws me a wobbly by doing smthg I don't expect and, that mostly, at a most inconvenient moment, due to the omnipresent updates.
For the moment I am contemplating .. but, eventually, I will have to make a decision.
Linux seems to be the way to go for me as I really cannot stomach Apple .. it is more to do with their ethos as I am aware of their robustness .. but I just do not like them .. any more than I like Jeff Bezos.
Almost exactly the same for me Sue, though my old PC runs (not perfectly, but manageably) well on Windows Vista without an update since I bought it years ago for €70. I did try updates in the early years but after about half an hour it would stop and say it couldn't be done.

My laptop runs on 10 and does precisely what your Win 10 one does, really annoying.

Going back further in years I bought a laptop which ran on 7. Hated it and got an expert friend to install a much older system (so old I can't remember the name but it didn't have a number). That ran perfectly without updates, there were non, and was only discarded because the hinge of the screen broke and only then because I had to hold or prop it up.The dear old computer continued to work. :lol:

Changing, to Linux for instance? Maybe, but it takes me months, maybe years to learn anything new, so, perhaps not. :?

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Spardo wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:47 am
suein56 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:01 pm
I find this thread interesting in that I have 2 laptops .. one Win 7 completely without any Windows updates for the last 6 years .. as I got so fed up with MS screwing up my laptop when I needed to use it for my teaching lessons. Result . . a laptop which functions just fine and has up-to-date browsers, anti- virus and malware blaster (not needed as yet) but nowt at all from MS for years and years.
My other laptop .. a Win 10 .. which, for the most part is also just fine, but occasionally throws me a wobbly by doing smthg I don't expect and, that mostly, at a most inconvenient moment, due to the omnipresent updates.
For the moment I am contemplating .. but, eventually, I will have to make a decision.
Linux seems to be the way to go for me as I really cannot stomach Apple .. it is more to do with their ethos as I am aware of their robustness .. but I just do not like them .. any more than I like Jeff Bezos.
Almost exactly the same for me Sue, though my old PC runs (not perfectly, but manageably) well on Windows Vista without an update since I bought it years ago for €70. I did try updates in the early years but after about half an hour it would stop and say it couldn't be done.

My laptop runs on 10 and does precisely what your Win 10 one does, really annoying.

Going back further in years I bought a laptop which ran on 7. Hated it and got an expert friend to install a much older system (so old I can't remember the name but it didn't have a number). That ran perfectly without updates, there were non, and was only discarded because the hinge of the screen broke and only then because I had to hold or prop it up.The dear old computer continued to work. :lol:

Changing, to Linux for instance? Maybe, but it takes me months, maybe years to learn anything new, so, perhaps not. :?
Windows 7 and Windows 10 will both run without updates. But your systems will be more vulnerable to malware attacks. Is this likely? Who knows, but I wouldn't take this risk anymore than I would leave my house with the door unlocked. Anti-malware antivirus packages are not sufficient. They are just one weapon in your protection armoury and vulnerabilities in the OS may not be protected by them - if that were not the case there would be no hacking.
Were I starting out today I might consider Linux or its variant Ubuntu. But for me Windows 10 is reliable, I have only had 1 problem in 5 years plus I have all the applications I need and for me it would not be worth the effort to switch. Bear in mind that there are large global enterprises behind OSX and Windows - they provide support. There is an enormous 3rd party application industry writing for these platforms. I believe you will need to be technically more knowledgeable to run Linux.

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Ah Rabbit, but you obviously live in an area where you need to lock your doors. ;) :)

But regarding running without updates. My Vista stopped updating long ago, or at least saying it couldn't do it and is relatively troublefree, but that might be down to the old Advent machine as much as the OS.

And the old system I had installed to replace 7 years ago, XP, worked perfectly without updates or hitch for many years and was still running flawlessly when the broken hinge put an end to it.

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