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There is a lot more to an application for a Titre de Sejour - (residence title) than just establishing that you have lived in France for 5 years+.
You have to prove that you are solvent, have a sufficient income to maintain yourself and prove that income by bank statements, pension statements and tax records, admission to the French health system and have health insurance, and a criminal records check is also carried out.

Whatever the outcome of the Brexit nonsense is, regarding our status in France, whether or not the TDS /CDS is recognised after Brexit or converted into some other form of ID card as seems likely, sooner or later you will have to go through this procedure, so why not get on with it now?
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Personally what I would like is some sort of EU issued document that gave me permanent freedom of movement within the EU. That would be worth having! Without the need to take French nationality.

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My point on the Carte de Sejour is that it was issued by the French administration
under their legislation 30 years ago and it gave me the right of residence here.
The fact that someone is changing the goal posts (brexit) doesn't change my
right of residence.
I think people are flapping about this too much
Britain is not going to send their EU nationals packing so why would France,
Alot of nonsense nit picking going on
KEEP IT SIMPLE if you qualify for a carte de sejour now and intend to stay
here then get one

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Why? Why not wait and get the correct document after Brexit?

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Fitter wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 11:30 am

Whatever the outcome of the Brexit nonsense is, regarding our status in France, whether or not the TDS /CDS is recognised after Brexit or converted into some other form of ID card as seems likely, sooner or later you will have to go through this procedure, so why not get on with it now?
My answer to that, and I dont speak for anyone else, is that I dont believe that I will have to go through the procedure sooner or later so that is my reason for not doing it now.

you may be correct and I will have to do it later, i make a habit of not doing today what I can put off till tomorrow and tomorrow may never come.

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Halfpint wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 6:21 pm

KEEP IT SIMPLE if you qualify for a carte de sejour now and intend to stay
here then get one
Shant! ;)

But only because I dislike authority :lol:

Mind you if you add the words "later if you have to" then I'm with you :good:

P.S. yes people are flapping a lot about it, why has it reached a peak at this particular time?

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DominicBest wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 6:28 pm
Why? Why not wait and get the correct document after Brexit?
Because if you wait to apply for a TDS until after the UK leaves the EU you will have to apply as an ex-EU citizen.
What the implications of that will be is anybody's guess, but I'm sure you catch my drift.
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I understand that black and white argument but I really don’t think that French residents will be thrown to the wolves and go from one extreme to the other. I can’t see one group of residents being told that you have lived here for x years, applied for and got a document that you didn’t need which is now inappropriate so you can stay, while you lot who have been resident for the same time and have always had the same rights as that group with the unnecessary document are going to have to jump through a lot more hoops than them to arrive at the same place.
It’s an individual choice but one who nobody actually knows the answer to. The big advantage of having a CDS is that you might not have to submit as much paperwork as those without after Brexit but the downside is that you will have to have submitted a lot more before. Swings and roundabouts?

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We've got TdS which expired donkey's years ago, and which we were told didn't need renewing. If necessary I shall produce them together with all the tax returns. I'm sure that'll suffice.

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Well to answer Dominic Best and Chancer, my experience of admin here is
that if you have the right documents then life is easier.

Take the scenario that you have lived here for the required time to qualify
and DON't have a carte de sejour then after Brexit you become ONLY a non
UE person and you'll get most likely a 'gallic shrug' for anything because you
aren't playing the paper game properly and you'll have to maybe start jumping
through more difficult hoops to get one as a non UE citizen

Now those of us :D with the Carte will be 'easily' able to change it for the new
one or whatever they decide as we are already identifiable 'RESIDENTS' and
have already proved what goody two shoes we are

simple

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