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Re: New system for carte de sejou

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In the confusion between different kinds of cards, I find it helps to think of Titre as meaning entitlement so there are different types of entitlement to reside in France, of which carte de séjour is one.

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You beat me to it Fitter, they have always been speaking of a Carte de Residente being issued after Brexit and exchanged for existing carte/titre de séjours.

As Debra points out it will all depend on the flavour of Brexit and peoples circumstances.
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Re: New system for residence permit required after brexit

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An analogy which might make it clearer: when buying something, you can use a payment card; either a debit card or a credit card, both of which are types of payment card, and a credit card can be Visa, American Express or any other brand, but all are types of payment card. Substitute Titre de Séjour for payment card and Carte de séjour and Carte de Résident for the types of Titre de Séjour and it makes things clear.
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Re: New system for residence permit required after brexit

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Some info here that might answer a question someone asked and what has already been answered re what happens if there is or isn't a brexit but I've posted it anyway.

“They can apply as of now, though nothing will be processed until the UK has really left. And there is no urgency because they would have six months to apply after a no-deal Brexit and a year to obtain a card.'

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French- ... 2Mg70knSjU

and

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French- ... rU2ZMupOOU
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Re: New system for residence permit required after brexit

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Just to add to some folks confusion :D maybe the card should be altered to state Titre du Jour at least I think that means title of the day and that way if the goal posts keep moving it wouldn't matter - sorry I don't mean to be flippant just trying to lighten it a bit :) :) :) :)
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Re: New system for residence permit required after brexit

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Only €12.50 for a help guide which wont be as concise and correct as the flowchart in English produced by the French government.

Who said there would be no winners in a Brexit! :cry:
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I'm confused. We have our third tds, issued in Oct 2018. It says it is valid until Oct 2028, the nature of the card is a 'carte de sejour citoyen UE/EEE/SUISSE' and the remarques say 'sejour permanent'. Is this card covered by French or UE law.

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Re: New system for carte de sejou

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Simonflys wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:56 pm
OK enough! I guess some folks only see what they want to see - jeeeeezzzzz. Here's my snotty answer.

TdS and CdS are the same thing - end of! I have a Titre de Séjour clearly indicating Séjour Permanent - it has a 10 year validity. You need to change them every 10 years to renew your photo and change the inbuilt chip - completely understandable (or so I thought!!!!). What I have in fact is a 'Title' or 'entitlement' if your prefer, to permanent residence. My 'Title' is printed on a plastic 'card'. The 'Nature' or type of 'Titre' - as you can see - is in fact a Carte de Séjour. The old name for this type of card was indeed a Carte de Séjour - and for one last time - the same as a Titre de Séjour. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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I was issued with a Communaute Europeenne Carte de Sejour in 2001 - It shows my Date d'entrée en France in April 2001 and expired in April 2011. Is this considered the same as a permanent residence permit?

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Re: New system for residence permit required after brexit

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Mangetout wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:13 pm
I'm confused. We have our third tds, issued in Oct 2018. It says it is valid until Oct 2028, the nature of the card is a 'carte de sejour citoyen UE/EEE/SUISSE' and the remarques say 'sejour permanent'. Is this card covered by French or UE law.
It is covered by French law, which in turn complies with an EU directive. EU law does not exist in the way that most people understand the term. The EU issues directives (once agreed by all member states) and the individual countries put these into their own local legal codes in their own language(s).

Edit to add: If you cease to be an EU/EEE/Suisse citizen the card becomes immediately invalid, so you will need to sign up for a different card if that applies.

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Re: New system for residence permit required after brexit

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It doesn’t become invalid immediately after Brexit as even after a no-deal Brexit it will remain valid for 12 months.

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