Do I need a smartphone?

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Re: Do I need a smartphone?

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I have a 'droid smartphone which I use for a multitude of things except for making telephone calls.

:good: That role is reserved for my trusty Samsung X480 which I've been using since 2002. It's a rugged clamshell; still holds its charge well; is delightfully simple and after seventeen years I fully understand how it works; if it got broken, stolen or lost I wouldn't care very much.

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I just did some Googling because I thought it might help me get the Free 4g signal that gets cut off by other buildings just as I arrive at my house.

I could get a gratis Free Femtocell (except I dont have the right Freebox for it) what it would do is use my Free ADSL connection to create a Free 3g relay for myself and other Free mobile phone users to use, when travelling I have seen my smartphone connected occasionally to Free Femtocells.

So it would appear Mike that its not an amplifier, you dont need a mobile signal, in fact those are the circumstances where you would probably desire one.

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:( Maricopa, it looks as if Femto might be coming to an end.

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I am well aware of that Tom and to say that frustrates me is an understatement :cry: . I have had mine for at least ten years and it has been an absolute must have. Apparently I should be able to make and receive calls by wifi, but haven't yet had the time to look into it. If that works then fine, but if not then I will once again be without mobile service chez moi :evil: .

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Tom and Chrisell sum up my situation and feelings.

I never wanted a smartphone and would probably never have got one but was forced to to recieve notifications of same day reservations from Booking.com (except of course as usual with those ******s they no longer come through) also to be able to take credit card payments using a SumUp reader.

As a mobile computer its superb, in fact I never ever use the tablette I bought as a back up to the computer, as a telephone I find it useless and overcomplicated and with minimal battery autonomy.

My 2004 Nokia remains in my pocket for calls and texts, it does not eve have a camera but it will bounce off concrete floors with no damage, the smartphone would crack its screen as soon as its sat on or bumped into.

I take it with me if I think it might be needed or to check E-mails for any bookings (should get push notifications but dont) if lost or trying to find somewhere google maps is better than my old satnav that you could not ask to find an individual shop or business without an address. It has been invaluable when I am in the UK for free internet access anywhere anytime.

As a phone, well technically you can make and recieve phone calls with this little computer but for me its not worthy of the title, I have made less than 10 calls on it most of them a year ago when i was hospitalised where again for internet access it was invaluable, nobody has the number and when I do recieve a call I still cannot manage to answer it :?

It enables you to use things like Whatsapp which I find very good, typing on that or sending texts is much easier than with the Nokia and predictive text and the spellcheck is great, it even uses both dictionarys while I am texting in Franglais. I have loaded a couple of usefull apps specific to my needs but I hate the fact that to make a phone call you are using an app, it says it all really, if you kept the phone switched off for emergencies and turned it on needing help you would have to wait for your little computer to boot up for a couple of minutes before being able to make a call a long as computer does not say NO!

To be able to have the advantages of both the best phone (Nokia 2310) and a small portable internet connected computer means i am paying for 2 phone abonnements, one costs nothing, the other was €1 per month but now €10 per month, if I had to choose between them to have one single abonnement I would reluctantly have to keep the smartphone.

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A smartphone really isn't the ideal instrument if you just want to make and receive calls because it would be expensive and need charging more often then a simple non-smart handset. But that's not really the point of a smartphone which should more accurately, if cumbersomely, be called a small tablet computer with phone capability.

Ally has listed several ways in which a smartphone is useful. If you don't need these things then a smartphone would be an expensive plastic brick. OTOH, if you do use the features then it's a little treasure.

What I always find entertaining and not a little irritating is those that condemn smartphones without having used one. Are these the same people lighting their homes with candles, washing their clothes in the river or who build an ice house to keep the milk fresh in summer? While learning a new technology might take some effort it's not compulsory; choose not to if you like but save the luddite admonishments.

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jsks wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:52 pm
A smartphone really isn't the ideal instrument if you just want to make and receive calls because it would be expensive and need charging more often then a simple non-smart handset. But that's not really the point of a smartphone which should more accurately, if cumbersomely, be called a small tablet computer with phone capability.

Ally has listed several ways in which a smartphone is useful. If you don't need these things then a smartphone would be an expensive plastic brick. OTOH, if you do use the features then it's a little treasure.

What I always find entertaining and not a little irritating is those that condemn smartphones without having used one. Are these the same people lighting their homes with candles, washing their clothes in the river or who build an ice house to keep the milk fresh in summer? While learning a new technology might take some effort it's not compulsory; choose not to if you like but save the luddite admonishments.
Everyone makes a decision on what they actually need - I actively chose not to use the phone for emails even when I was busy - still managed to run a business for 25 years - but I actively avoided linking to e mails as I knew I'd never get any peace - but thats as much to do with my mind set as the phone - my office door was closed and locked when I wasn't working (that goes back to the days of fax and answerphones mind) - if I see them I'll answer them and end up working. Most of the objections to smart phones are more linked to how they're used than what they are - endless bad pictures - obsession with social media - tapping away just in case you missed a call - sending texts about trivia or even better "funny" pictures you just had to share. The phone allows - it doesn't make you.

The problem with the argument above - we had machines that washed our clothes - those machines didn't do 30 other things at the same time so you never got the washing done as you were busy with Candy Crush (the actual reason you need a smart phone)

I hate cameras on smart phones - or more accurately the endless repetitive use of them just so there's 300 bad photos no one else wants to see - eyes and brain should be enough if you're taking endless pictures you miss the world

The music player - erm ...... get a proper MP3 player - it sounds better and doesn't stop when some one decides to call you.

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I have a smart phone and dislike it immensely. I only bought it to find out why so many people think they are wonderful and necessary. I have only used the camera a couple of times just to see if it works. When I want a photo I use my camera which has a proper lense, etc. I have tried to use it for internet but can't get on with the tiny screen, always having to twiddle with it to expand a page to get the microscopic text up to visible size. I downloaded (via wifi) several different "apps" and almost all of them are either pretty wimpy, cost money, or are loaded with intrusive ads that like to interrupt while trying to do something. For my purposes, ie. a communications device for possible emergencies while away from home, it is no better than my ancient Nokia Mars bar sized phone despite it costing five times as much. I no longer even keep a sim card installed. That is back in my old Nokia stupid phone and only used when the OH goes on her annual visit to Brexitland to collect our ebay purchases.

"What I always find entertaining and not a little irritating is those that condemn smartphones without having used one. Are these the same people lighting their homes with candles, washing their clothes in the river or who build an ice house to keep the milk fresh in summer? While learning a new technology might take some effort it's not compulsory; choose not to if you like but save the luddite admonishments."


When we first arrived in Brittany candles were essential as mains electricity hadn't yet reached our house, and once it did was pretty unreliable. The previous owners (a family of 11) made full use of the river at the edge of the garden as mains water wasn't available until the year before I bought the place. An ice house isn't necessary. It's bloody cold here (in the shade) even in summer. We have to nuke the butter in the microwave to make it soft enough to spread on toast. :roll:
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I have a smartphone and a normal phone and i swap the sim between the two.

If you need internet tools when out and and about then get a smartphone. If not then don't.

Smartphones are great if you are a teenager or in business but for anyone else they are quite pointless and sad. In fact, they are very sad.

I prefer my 20 euro Nokia dumb phone when I am out and about and my internet at home.

If I go on holiday I take the smartphone.

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alittlebitmorefrench wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:57 pm

Smartphones are great if you are a teenager or in business but for anyone else they are quite pointless and sad. In fact, they are very sad.

If I go on holiday I take the smartphone.
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