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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by Ally » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:59 pm

Turning the army on your own. It always ends well doesn't it? No, wait a minute, it never ends well.
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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by alittlebitmorefrench » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:45 pm

Ally wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:59 pm
Turning the army on your own. It always ends well doesn't it? No, wait a minute, it never ends well.
How do you end this then ?

The casseurs, the ultra right, the ultra left and a load of public school kids out on a jolly....how do you stop them ?

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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by Ally » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:07 pm

Arrest and prosecute hooligans. Negotiate with protest leaders and acknowledge their right to peaceful protest.
I'm not here to give advice to Macron but if he sends in the troops he has lost.
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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by alittlebitmorefrench » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:55 pm

Ally wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:07 pm
Arrest and prosecute hooligans. Negotiate with protest leaders and acknowledge their right to peaceful protest.
I'm not here to give advice to Macron but if he sends in the troops he has lost.

There are no leaders. Well social media...which you love.

So you have 8000 protesters and 1000 casseurs.

How do you arrest 1000 casseurs and maintain public order ?

And when you have arrested them, what do you do now ?

Quickly build a few more jails ????

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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by curtis » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:08 pm

alittlebitmorefrench wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:45 pm
Ally wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:59 pm
Turning the army on your own. It always ends well doesn't it? No, wait a minute, it never ends well.
It depends what you mean by "your own". Their actions have made them hors de loi and therefore not one of us.
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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by FrenchForumSurvivor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:43 pm

Ally wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:07 pm
Arrest and prosecute hooligans. Negotiate with protest leaders and acknowledge their right to peaceful protest.
I'm not here to give advice to Macron but if he sends in the troops he has lost.
In the immediacy of the moment, how do you propose that the fewer forces of order arrest the greater numbers of those whose mob instinct is to wreak havoc and destroy property? There are no designated leaders of the casseurs, and the 'real' gilet jaunes have already been given the right to protest peacefully, but the problem lies with those who aren't peaceful, they are the ones to stop, but how?
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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by Ally » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:01 pm

alittlebitmorefrench wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:55 pm
Ally wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:07 pm
Arrest and prosecute hooligans. Negotiate with protest leaders and acknowledge their right to peaceful protest.
I'm not here to give advice to Macron but if he sends in the troops he has lost.

There are no leaders. Well social media...which you love.

So you have 8000 protesters and 1000 casseurs.

How do you arrest 1000 casseurs and maintain public order ?

And when you have arrested them, what do you do now ?

Quickly build a few more jails ????
So would the army's roll be if not to arrest? Shoot them? Crack skulls? Yes, that'll win hearts and minds. You really don't think your arguments through, do you?
And by the way, this is social media. Nobody loves it as much as you if attempts at registering as a user are any measure. 😉
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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by After the Storm » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:07 pm

Ally wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:07 pm
Arrest and prosecute hooligans. Negotiate with protest leaders and acknowledge their right to peaceful protest.
I'm not here to give advice to Macron but if he sends in the troops he has lost.
On Cnews they are talking of the numbers coming from other countries to get involved in the violence at these manifestations..

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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by alittlebitmorefrench » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:16 pm

Ally wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:01 pm
alittlebitmorefrench wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:55 pm
Ally wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:07 pm
Arrest and prosecute hooligans. Negotiate with protest leaders and acknowledge their right to peaceful protest.
I'm not here to give advice to Macron but if he sends in the troops he has lost.

There are no leaders. Well social media...which you love.

So you have 8000 protesters and 1000 casseurs.

How do you arrest 1000 casseurs and maintain public order ?

And when you have arrested them, what do you do now ?

Quickly build a few more jails ????
So would the army's roll be if not to arrest? Shoot them? Crack skulls? Yes, that'll win hearts and minds. You really don't think your arguments through, do you?
Half of them are public school kids or those coming from middle class backgrounds ;)

Casseurs are a mixed bunch. Everyone knows that. Your neighbours maybe casseurs. My neighbours maybe casseurs.

They do it because they can get away with it. It is a jolly.

Casseurs are as much a part of France as Camembert.

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Re: Paris is up in smoke again

Post by Lemorvan » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:26 pm

Ally wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:01 pm
So would the army's roll be?
Standard issue is cheese and ham.
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