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I applied for my Irish state pension a couple of weeks ago. Today instead of getting an application form I got a letter stating that I was obliged to apply for my Irish state pension through the french pension office.
I phoned the Irish state pension office and they told me that because I was living in another EU country I was obliged to go through their offices, and that I should go to the local pension office to start the procedure. Normally the procedure in Ireland is to compete the 20 page application form and that is it.
I am a complete loss on what I should do. I just can not imagine asking French officials to give me a 20 page document and expecting them to process it.
I recently applied for an international driving license, it took 5 month, and in respect of my wife they lost her photographs and self addressed envelope, so i have no faith in expecting them to process a state pension application.

Has anyone any experience of applying for another EU state pension through France. Is there a french pension office near Perpignan and if so what is it called

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Have you worked in France? If so, yes your pension needs to be arranged through France. If not, no you should apply through Ireland.

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Never worked in France, however they insist that I have to go through France.

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https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-sty ... -1.2994083

If you've never worked in France I think DB is right; CNAV (that is what the French pension service is called) won't want to take on your pension.
There is a CNAV office in Perpignan... https://www.118000.fr/e_C0041684176
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https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/w ... dex_en.htm


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If you can't get find anyone who knows their job well enough to provide you with the correct information, send a copy of the letter you received to SOLVIT
http://ec.europa.eu/solvit/

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DominicBest wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:38 pm
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/w ... dex_en.htm



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What they say there is exactly what I did, but the pensions people in the last country in which I worked were not able to process the request with the UK and in the end I had to apply directly to the UK having spoken with them and they confirmed that was what should happen.

It seems that it is not just France that has its own interpretation of rules.

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Great information, a big thanks to all

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I would call the Irish Dept of Social Protection - Contributory State pension section - 00 353 71 915 7100
website - http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/State-Pe ... utory.aspx

and persist until you get a straight answer. Somebody may not be clear on the fact that you have paid no contributions in other EU states. Sometimes front line staff in Govt organisations make mistakes but will try to persist in their views so If the person who answers the phone tries to fob you off, ask for the Higher Executive Officer or the Assistant Principal Officer. If you are uncomfortable with a slightly persistent approach, pay a solicitor a small fee to do it for you or get the local politicians office in your home area of Ireland to call on your behalf, better still if you have family members in the area who have a vote, let them call the politician's office.

If you want independent advice, try the the Irish Citizens advice Service - see dedicated page below
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/so ... utory.html

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Goslow, I forgot to mention one more resource
The Irish Consulate - Phone 01 44 17 67 48
If you are distressed by your pension predicament, up it by 100 per cent when you call them
They may enjoy the challenge of a new issue as I am sure that that the daily burden of being terribly self important about very little must be wearisome
They might be especially useful if you end up having to deal with the French. You could press them to mediate for you.
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