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Re: visit to doctors

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Captain Morgan wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:40 pm
If you suspect you might have it the advice is to telephone your doctor. If you feel really unwell have difficulty breathing etc call 15.
Thank you, I do not now suspect I have it, and certainly not the difficulty you mention, but I just wondered what if anything follows on from that call to the doctor.

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I think the doctor will be briefed as to what your next steps are depending on how you describe the symptoms. I also suspect* they have a close liaison with the assistante sociale in case there are needs such as food delivery etc..

* actually not suspect, I know damn well they do have close links.

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exile wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:38 pm
I think the doctor will be briefed as to what your next steps are depending on how you describe the symptoms. I also suspect* they have a close liaison with the assistante sociale in case there are needs such as food delivery etc..

* actually not suspect, I know damn well they do have close links.
Thanks, Andy, I did wonder if there was something like that as a follow up.

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I hope they are better in France profonde if they even exist than in a big town.

I was released from hospital on a Thursday in February with strict orders to do nothing but lie on my front for a further week, having had 3 post ope detached retinas before I was going to obey this time.

A.S. contacted the Mairie who contacted the repas à domicile service of the local terminal care hospital, they got out quick enough Friday to get my signed contract & RIB but was too much hassle to start deliverys until Monday so I went 4 days witout food.

I had the deliveries for a week and at the end seemed to be one short, apparently what they delivered on the Monday I was not supposed to eat until the Tuesday so they expected me to go 5 days without food after being discharged from hospital :o

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This is what you are supposed to do if you have symptoms

En cas de symptômes, même faibles, les bonnes démarches sont les suivantes :

s’isoler sans délai,
maintenir à distance les personnes, y compris celles de son entourage,
porter un masque en cas de sortie,
contacter son médecin traitant ou, en son absence, un autre médecin de ville (ne pas se rendre directement chez le médecin, ni aux urgences de l’hôpital). Si l'on n'a pas de médecin traitant, on peut appeler le 09 72 72 99 09 (service gratuit + prix de l’appel, ouvert 7 jours sur 7, de 8 h à 19 h) pour être orienté vers un médecin généraliste volontaire pour recevoir, pendant la période de l'épidémie, des patients potentiellement atteints du Covid-19 n’appartenant pas à sa patientèle habituelle. Le médecin prescrira un test RT-PCR (pris en charge à 100 % par l’Assurance Maladie), remettra ou prescrira des masques chirurgicaux et détaillera les consignes d’isolement,
réaliser le test RT-PCR prescrit par le médecin (pris en charge à 100 % par l’Assurance Maladie) le plus rapidement possible dans le laboratoire spécialisé le plus proche,
lister les personnes de son entourage familial, amical, professionnel avec qui on a été en contact rapproché sans masque (personnes sous le même toit, collègues partageant le même bureau …) 2 jours avant le début des signes de la maladie jusqu’à la mise en isolement. Les coordonnées de ces personnes seront recueillies par le médecin et par les équipes sanitaires de l’Assurance Maladie, qui contacteront systématiquement ces « personnes contact ».
En cas de difficultés respiratoires comme un manque de souffle au moindre effort ou lors de la prise de parole, appeler le 15 (ou le 114 pour les personnes sourdes ou malentendantes).

En cas de doute sur un médicament ou sur l’évolution des symptômes, il faut contacter son médecin.

Durant cette période d’épidémie, le recours à la téléconsultation d’un professionnel de santé est encouragé et facilité.

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So how would that work with une personne isolée like myself?

No problem with tracing my entourage who may have been contaminated, there is no-one but that same lack of an entourage would present problems with collecting the test PCR, deposing it back to the test laboratory, collecting medication from the pharmacy, shopping during confinement etc.

I wonder what they would actually do about all of that?

And once tested positive what would change, I know if you form part of a household either the whole household has to isolate with you or they will put you up in a hôtel, I also know that it hasn't actually happened certainly in les Hauts de France so I think people are just ignoring it.

Knowing how in the past I have always been left high and dry because they cannot comprehend that someone would not have an entourage, that they are happy to leave someone with no income for 4 months and ignore all their communications rather than process their claim for the fonds de solidarité, how many elderly people were left to die in the canicule etc I wonder whether CV19 +ve patients without an entourage would be treated any differently?

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Well round here it seems that the Assistante Sociale is very responsive, as are the nurses. And during the lockdown the mayor was collecting and delivering food for a neighbour who is a bit “special”. Big towns are a bit different, but there is a network of covid volunteers - you just have to plug into the system. Don’t ask, don’t get.

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M. le Maire was the one that was a bit special :lol:

The parting shot from the regional newspaper when he was finally unseated was:

Un triste baroud de déshonneur pour un élu qui ne digère pas le verdict des urnes. Être un démocrate consiste, même en cas de défaite, à se plier au résultat du suffrage universel ou à le contester par tous les moyens légaux...

I would have no concerns with the present incumbent, it was he who collected me from the hôpital when they did their usual denial of my rights to a VSL on sortie.

But he cannot access an assistante sociale for my current financial problems re the fonds de solidarité neither could the député of the region, he could monter un dossier for the CCAS for the commune which would take months and involve 5 people knowing my business, which in reality means everybody.

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You were talking about how a single person with no family/friends close by would cope with Covid.....which can be dealt with by the volunteer network, local AS or nurse depending on the help needed.

https://covid19.reserve-civique.gouv.fr/

https://www.francebenevolat.org/actuali ... n-covid-19

Sorting out your financial affairs is a very different question!

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But comes within the remit of an assistante sociale, the one at the hospital did just that which is why I am now a beneficiary of the C.S.S. and she tried hard with the CAF also but ultimately failed.

The mother of a new tenant (lycéen) come la rentrée is an A.S. and I was discussing her role with her at the weekend.

Its a problem when a Mairie does not have one or does not know how to even access one and all they can suggest is their own CCAS, its also a problem when the deputé of the département cannot put you in contact with an AS, there has to be some problem of jurisdiction and that is how people fall through the cracks in what is ultimately an uncaring society whose actors only concern themselves with those under their scope of operations.

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