New main switch, fuse etc?

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New main switch, fuse etc?

Post by Jeff66 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:29 pm

We are remodelling the living room and kitchen into a single space due to the wife needing more space for her wheelchair.
One thing we'd love to do would be to hide the LINKY, distribution board and the main switch and huge main fuse. The last two are ancient, and massive.

Who woukld I need to contact to get them upgraded and does anyone have any idea how much I'm likely to have to pay?
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Re: New main switch, fuse etc?

Post by Le-Dolly » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:14 pm

Contact ENERDIS.
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Re: New main switch, fuse etc?

Post by RobertArthur » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:05 pm

ENEDIS, the new name for the ERDF, is responsible for the (local) grid. This includes the main switch, the so called disjoncteur de branchement (DB). Downstream it is your responsibility, obeys to the French electrical code NF C 15-100. ENEDIS has an impressive list of all their "prestations" where you'll find what you are looking for on page 47, code name F 860: Déplacement et modifiction de raccordement. No price mentioned, you'll have to request a quotation. Not cheap. For a new raccordement this year's prices are mentioned here, to give you an impression. If your main switch is very old you can tell them that your DB is not "aux normes" anymore and that you are supprised that they didn't change it when installing your new smart meter Linky. So please replace it, it is your property, I want a main switch and associated appliances conforming to the regs of today, safety first. As from 01/04/2011 these are there own regs for the so called "panneau de contrôle". A new main switch looks like this.

How? Contact their service client by phone, in writing or "en ligne" (website): contacter ENEDIS. New wiring from the main switch to your tableau électrique is work for a local electrician at your expense. The ENEDIS doesn't touch anything downstream of your main switch.

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Post by Le-Dolly » Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:22 am

As a pointer, we had our meter and main switch moved within the same room a distance of about 2½mts at a cost of 220€.
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Post by Aardvark » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:26 am

And once the safety issues are covered as suggested above, you can physically cover the whole lot to hide it from view. Made to look like a simple cupboard you will still have easy access to make repairs or add new circuits.
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Re: New main switch, fuse etc?

Post by Jeff66 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:08 pm

Thanks for all advice.
Aardvark: that's what the wife wants.

Hmmmm, they don't allow emails, their contact form is unavailable, and the free telephone number won't work on my wifes GifGaf phone, the only portable we have.

C'est la France...

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Post by Le-Dolly » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:54 pm

Jeff66 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:08 pm
Thanks for all advice.
Aardvark: that's what the wife wants.

Hmmmm, they don't allow emails, their contact form is unavailable, and the free telephone number won't work on my wifes GifGaf phone, the only portable we have.

C'est la France...
If you go the cupboard route, remember that it can look like a cupboard, but MUST NOT be used as one, you are required to have instant access to the tableau/panneau de contrôle, and not have to move this years jam production, brooms, mops and other assorted crap for access.
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Re: New main switch, fuse etc?

Post by Jeff66 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:09 pm

Thanks, Le Dolly, that did make me smile.

We've now involved a local French electricien who is going to contact ENERDIS for us. He looked over the installations and said my bit was OK, if a little untidy, (it will be tidied), theirs was out of norms, and the huge fuse needs gone.
He also said he'll tell them the outside wiring from overhead to tableau needs replaced.

He's promised to get back to us early next week with their response.

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Post by Jeff66 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:57 pm

sigh...local guy turned week before last week, promised to contact ENERDIS for us and let us know early last week.
Now saturday, he no longer answers his phone and hasn't been back to us.

WHY are French artisans like this????
If he doesn't want the job, why not just SAY SO??????????

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Re: New main switch, fuse etc?

Post by RobertArthur » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:54 pm

Jeff66, sorry to hear about this service clients. You are not the first one, not the last one. Practical steps: 1/ wait and see, or: 2/ contact ENEDIS yourself, bureaucratic DIY. Go to their website, this page, and see if you manage to complete the steps outlined below:

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Back in time, an article in the Financial Times, april 15 2005, about a Dutchman, former European Union Commissioner Frits Bolkestein, almost desperatley seeking an electricain near his second home in northern France. I came to your door/phone, no reply, for many months. So he joked: that the country did not need to fear a "tsunami" of cheap eastern European plumbers and electricians. Have no fear French citizens, there is apparently more than enough work around when nobody shows any interest in a few simple wiring updates.

Because of his controversial Services Directive he was not very popular in France, a liberal undercover devil of the free market. He blew a French fuse, this article in the FT continued, quote: " But this week, a band of guerrilla electricians from the state-owned utility EDF decided to sneak on to the property and cut off the power supply in protest. France's exception syndicale means there is unlikely to be any reprimand for the electricians, whose are more likely to be applauded in a country where anti-free market feeling is running pretty high. And the chances of him getting a local electrician to restore his power supply seem pretty thin as his offhand comments last week appear to have outraged the locals."

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