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Re: Frozen state pensions

Post by Le Démerdeur » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:32 pm

So not more malarial hallucinations then :good:

Thats exactly what I recalled reading and why it was mooted that after Brexit the policy could be successfully challenged.

None of my googling brought up any links to it though, all seem to suggest its just a question of money saving.

The 2 real issues are has a deal been done to guarantee future pension increases for UK citizens in EU countries and will they finally be given to retirees in commonwealth countries? Some of which have pensions fixed at 1980's levels.

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Re: Frozen state pensions

Post by elsie » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:58 pm

This https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-7894 is the latest document on Brexit and state pensions April 10, 2019

The full Frozen Overseas Pensions document http://researchbriefings.files.parliame ... N01457.pdf gives a lot more on the various changes to overseas pensions over the years. There is a good summary of the current situation and the historical background

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Re: Frozen state pensions

Post by Le Démerdeur » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:23 pm

The UK leaving the EU will not affect entitlement to continue receiving the UK State Pension if you live in the EU, and we are committed to uprate across the EU in 2019 to 2020. We would wish to continue uprating pensions beyond that but would take decisions in light of whether, as we would hope and expect, reciprocal arrangements with the EU are in place.

Thats it then, we are all doomed I tell you :cry:

The first time I ever saw the phrase "committed to continuing" etc was in the 80's, it meant the opposite, "we will be ending this just as soon as we can", every time its been trotted out since its been the same story :cry:

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Re: Frozen state pensions

Post by Aardvark » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:14 pm

exile "What might happen in the future is anybody's guess. Options include unfreezing Commonwealth pensions or freezing all non-resident pensions with everything in between."

The freezing began a few years back when we lost the winter fuel allowance simply because a couple of tropical islands owned by France have warmer weather.
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Re: Frozen state pensions

Post by Le Démerdeur » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:04 pm

You mean the one that they were "committed to maintaining" ?

The writing is on the wall.

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Re: Frozen state pensions

Post by exile » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:16 pm

Aardvark wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:14 pm
exile "What might happen in the future is anybody's guess. Options include unfreezing Commonwealth pensions or freezing all non-resident pensions with everything in between."

The freezing began a few years back when we lost the winter fuel allowance simply because a couple of tropical islands owned by France have warmer weather.
Yes funny that. Included French overseas territories but managed somehow to exclude Gib, St Helena, Falkland Isles and many others that would have made a difference.

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Re: Frozen state pensions

Post by Nifty » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:14 pm

elsie wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:58 pm
This https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-7894 is the latest document on Brexit and state pensions April 10, 2019

The full Frozen Overseas Pensions document http://researchbriefings.files.parliame ... N01457.pdf gives a lot more on the various changes to overseas pensions over the years. There is a good summary of the current situation and the historical background
Could britexit have anything to do with what is described in the links, and, will things change much in the future?

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Re: Frozen state pensions

Post by Tom » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:13 pm

Yes funny that. Included French overseas territories but managed somehow to exclude Gib, St Helena, Falkland Isles and many others that would have made a difference.
:( There is a technical difference between the French and British territories but it does seem strange that Italian residents still get the WFA.
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