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Re: How to learn French

Post by Mrs Archy » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:25 am

This came through on my email yesterday! May be of some help Sidandus?

https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french ... njugation/
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Re: How to learn French

Post by rabbit » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:28 am

Simonflys wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:19 am
landmannnn wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:45 pm
In reality in everyday English there is no difference. People interchange them and 99% of the population would say they meant the same thing.
Absolutely @landmannnn! :good: Can I..... ? / May I..... ? Completely interchangeable as are many other verb forms in regular daily use. Sometimes context needs to come into play for clarity - that's all.

Whatever happens in your language learning attempts, just make absolutely sure to steer clear of that pesky 1% who MAY/ CAN be anally retentive and put you right off! :roll:
Agree with above, the distinction between them is very subtle. Can is used in two ways. To discover if someone or thing has the ability eg can he cook well, can the car seat 5 people? The other meaning is to ask permission- like puis-je. May is a slightly more formal way of asking permission more akin to pourrais-je. But as already mentioned many Brits use them interchangeably.
Don’t fall into the current UK import from the USA of “can I get” Eg can I get a coffee? Instead of “may I have a coffee

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Re: How to learn French

Post by Sidandus » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:44 pm

Mrs Archy wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:25 am
This came through on my email yesterday! May be of some help Sidandus?

https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french ... njugation/
Thank you Mrs Archy. I’ve saved this on my IPad too investigate later :good:

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Re: How to learn French

Post by PatF » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:23 pm

Such an interesting thread.
But as I've said before, we don't just need to be able to speak in a conversation. We need to listen to them and understand them. My weakest point as I'm a bit deaf.
Also read and write in french. I still enjoy reading french books and newspapers. My written french used to be ok but I've lost it now.
I don't think I would have passed the the language test for french citizenship.
ps and I think we women are less self conscious about making mistakes than you men.
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Re: How to learn French

Post by just a Frenchie » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:58 pm

PatF wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:23 pm
I think we women are less self conscious about making mistakes than you men.
From my experience of life:

Article 1 : Women never make mistakes

Article 2 : If you think that a woman has made a mistake, refer to Article 1 which prevails... :D
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Re: How to learn French

Post by FrenchForumSurvivor » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:08 pm

Just to revert to the dreaded subjunctive, I heard last night the following lyrics in a song: Où que tu sois et où que tu ailles, je serais là. Without some knowledge of certain simple subjunctive forms, a lot of English-speaking learners of French would come unstuck on that sentence.
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Re: How to learn French

Post by Flaneur » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:37 pm

FrenchForumSurvivor wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:08 pm
Just to revert to the dreaded subjunctive, I heard last night the following lyrics in a song: Où que tu sois et où que tu ailles, je serais là. Without some knowledge of certain simple subjunctive forms, a lot of English-speaking learners of French would come unstuck on that sentence.
Bryan Adams?
Same old nonsense.

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Re: How to learn French

Post by FrenchForumSurvivor » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:06 pm

Flaneur wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:37 pm
FrenchForumSurvivor wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:08 pm
Just to revert to the dreaded subjunctive, I heard last night the following lyrics in a song: Où que tu sois et où que tu ailles, je serais là. Without some knowledge of certain simple subjunctive forms, a lot of English-speaking learners of French would come unstuck on that sentence.
Bryan Adams?
It wasn't Bryan Adams in French and I can't remember even hearing the name of the song, it was just that phrase that leapt out at me, and I'm not even sure of the last three words.
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