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I have done the update of the forum software to phpBB v3.3.0.

I was not really intending to do it today, but it is done now.

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Me too, well not exactly, I was already logged on and reading when I clicked the next thread and got gobbledegook. :o

One of Nifty's threads then? :roll:
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Punishment increased if you repeatedly break the rules on confinement.

by After the Storm » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:28 am
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Thanks for putting this up elsewhere today Simonflys, I thought we’d give it its own thread.

Just in >>>

Non-respect du confinement : jusqu’à six mois de prison et 3750 euros d’amende
En pleine épidémie de coronavirus, l'Assemblée nationale a adopté un amendement qui vise à sanctionner plus sévèrement ceux qui ne respectent pas les règles de...

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200€ fine now;

Fake news! Le Monde says otherwise;
Monde aujourd'hui à 15h44
Attention, lamende nest pas passée a 200 euros!! Le decret publié aujourdhui au JO concerne uniquement la contravention de 5e classe encourue en cas de double violation des mesures dans une periode de 15 jours! Pour la 1ere violation, lamende est toujours celle de 4e...
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Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:59 pm
Covid-19 : Attestation de Déplacement Dérogatoire - Form

by Simonflys » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:24 am
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by Simonflys » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:24 am » in Health and Social Welfare
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Here's a direct link to a PDF of the form (Updated 24 March 2020)

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You might find these simplified versions for the visually impaired useful.
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Latest info re: Carte de Sejour

by Aardvark » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:30 pm
Last post by curtis » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:53 pm
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by Aardvark » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:30 pm

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The online site for applications is now offline. This message is posted.

The website “ONLINE PROCEDURE TO REQUEST A RESIDENCE PERMIT FOR BRITISH CITIZENS RESIDING IN FRANCE BEFORE THE UNITED KINGDOM’S WITHDRAWAL DATE FROM THE EUROPEAN UNION” opened in the event of a no-deal Brexit which has been ruled out is now closed.

The French Ministry of...

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Laugh I nearly did. I have a RDV for my TdeS on Wednesday after 18 mths wait. My dossier is complete. Just by chance I sent a mail yesterday with a question and received a reply this morning at 07.30 (do they work all night at the Préfecture?).
I think it is a standard letter. Anyway, it was very long and most didn't apply.
At the end it said that...

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Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:53 pm
land ownership

by Plog » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:01 pm
Last post by just a Frenchie » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:13 am
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by Plog » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:01 pm
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Hi

Having a bit of a boundary issue - need to establish who a parcel of land (number, etc known) belongs to but don’t want to involve the Mayor... ;)

Want to do it through the local cadastral, so to speak, but don’t seem to be able to find their contact details on line...

We were hoping for a nice form on-line but there does not appear to be...

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If you have a notaire they can tell you who owns what in seconds from the land number.
JAF a geometre can charge 1000s to place bornes in the ground.

Absolutely, get the numéro cadastre from the gouv.fr site and ask a Notaire by e-mail, costs something silly like €8, they do an on line search and an extrait from the last acte de vente is with...
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Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:13 am
Workers, are you using the correct form?

by DominicBest » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:26 pm
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by DominicBest » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:26 pm
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Apologies Le-Dolly. I mistook your reference to CE.
Message from URSSAF today re payments.
Take care
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:21 pm
Tax d'hab and Fonciere

by formagebleu » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:24 pm
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by formagebleu » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:24 pm
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Is there anyone out there who might be paying the Taxe d'hab/Fonc from a UK bank ?

At best I dislike direct debits/standing orders, but feel very unsure about doing this in French via my French bank account. And it's difficult to know and understand the system and keep the account fed as we live in England,

And, I have not found the...

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I pay 50% more than that for a small 3 bed 50's semi and a converted shed in the UK, as they are empty that will soon double, add to that the utility bills, insurance etc and the same again for the hôtel in France and you can see that I significant outgoings before even having a centime to spend on food, I had already gone without income in France...
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:01 pm
Purchase siblings' share of an inherited property.

by niemeyjt » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:15 am
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by niemeyjt » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:15 am

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Hypothetical situation.

Siblings inherit a property from parents, Acte de Succession is granted, property in their names and all inheritance taxes paid.

One want to buy the remainder out (with their agreement). What is process / tax implications (assuming purchase price is that used when doing IHT calcs so no capital gain)

Does entire house...

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Should have been done when the inheritance was happening.
I think, although you would have to check with the notaire, it's another sales contract, fees and all.

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Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:06 pm
Tax - Sale of shares purchased before moving to France

by v12mike » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:22 am
Last post by Hal » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:06 am
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by v12mike » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:22 am

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We were tax resident in France in 2019, but not for the 4 preceding years and during the year sold some shares that we had bought a 2 years previously.

It is not clear whether we calculate the taxable income from the purchase price, or the value at the date of becoming tax resident in France.

Any knowledge available?

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I'd still just pay the portion you were resident in France.

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Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:06 am
CDS Holders returning to France

by Nifty » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:11 pm
Last post by Le Démerdeur » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:09 pm
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by Nifty » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:11 pm
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Please can anyone inform me about where to find official info about residents returning to France.?

I am presently in Spain and plan to drive back home at the end of the month.

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Sounds sensible and pragmatic, it will prevent an invasion of second home owners and also them possibly taking up hospital beds which would run up bills that may not be paid.

City life has never appealed to me but to get forward in certain chosen careers or simply to make more money its essential for many, they become used to a very different...
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:09 pm
Tradesmen working during the Covid-19 crisis.

by Crazy Diamond » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:55 pm
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by Crazy Diamond » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:55 pm

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I can't find any posts re this elsewhere and if I've missed 'em, I apologise unreservedly. Can anybody please tell what, if any, are the rules re the above? I have been told it's permissible for tradesmen to visit premises to provide essential services such as a plumber coming out to fix a burst pipe, or an electrician to sort a power outage, but...

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I don't know the answer but utilities are saying they will still attend emergencies. You can decide yourself what constitutes an emergency. So I guess if you had an emergency then a tradesman could attend.

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Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:20 pm
Can anyone confirm this has been said

by manonthemoon » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:34 pm
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by manonthemoon » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:34 pm
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I hope not as Mr MotM is due home next Friday so a bit worried

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A French driving licence is virtually de facto proof of residence, the more recently issued the better.
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:58 am
Elections Municipales

by Le Démerdeur » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:07 am
Last post by Catrose » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:21 am
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by Le Démerdeur » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:07 am

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My good friend the outgoing 1ière adjoint has won the first tour against the Maire of the two previous mandats, what I dont know is if there will be a second tour, I think not as there were only the two lists of candidates but could someone explain how it works please, for info our commune is around 1300 or so inhabitants.

I know that you have to...

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This is the way it should work for over 1000 people (and you can only scratch candidate in places with less than 1000 inhabitants)

Pour les communes de 1 000 habitants et plus :
Le mode de scrutin est le scrutin proportionnel de listes à deux tours avec prime majoritaire. Au premier tour, si une liste obtient la majorité absolue des suffrages...

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Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:21 am
2019 Impôts...Pound to Euro average annual rate.

by Tom » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:23 pm
Last post by misswoodentop » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:03 pm
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by Tom » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:23 pm

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Change from 1 January 2019 to 31 December 2019
Minimum (13 August 2019): 1.0772 - Maximum (16 December 2019): 1.1988 - Average: 1.1399

:roll: Can hardly believe that the time has nearly come to start doing some sums again and if you have any Sterling gains or income you will need to convert your Pounds to Euros. The European Central Bank's...

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Given the typical inconsistency between official sources I have never used any of them. I just look up the exchange rate on the day I received each pension and convert them all separately. Never had my figures challenged. And if I do, I will point out that I used the rate published by the Banque de France.

I use the actual rate I got for each...

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Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:03 pm
Why has the Pound gone down?

by Tom » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:30 pm
Last post by Ally » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:52 pm
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by Tom » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:30 pm

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:? Apart from the BoE reducing the base rate from 0.75% to 0.25% is there any other reason why the Pound has sunk from €1.20 four weeks ago to €1.11 today? Surely the base rate reduction has been expected for quite a while.

:shock: Hope nobody has any Bitcoins... They have devalued by over 50% in the last four weeks.

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And the Euro would be a far stronger currency than it now is.

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Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:52 pm
Tax fonciere/habitation

by formagebleu » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:51 pm
Last post by Catrose » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:25 am
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by formagebleu » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:51 pm
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Has anyone had a letter from the tax people with a penalty as I understand it as I have paid these taxes in a different way.

It seems to be a penalty of 300 euro for EACH - as I received two letters- identical, but confusing as I am unsure what i have done wrong as I have always paid on time.

Incidentally, these taxes are now similar to the tax...

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Non-residents who only pay taxe fonc/d’hab can set up online. Info here...
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Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:25 am
A word from a church mouse

by FrenchForumSurvivor » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:01 pm
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by FrenchForumSurvivor » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:01 pm
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I had a whinge on the Transferwise topic about people mentioning money transfers when I haven't got any to transfer (not really feeling sorry for myself, it just niggled me at the time), and I found out something today, which I think I knew before but had forgotten, that I thought would be useful to know for others in a similar position, if they...

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That's right. Although the thirteenth payment only really works out at two weeks worth. Not a full month.

How come? 13 x 4 weeks = 52 weeks. One month each year will have two in-payments.
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:50 pm
Dechets - BIG CHANGE

by bubbles1 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:12 pm
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Well have those in the Dordogne received their paperwork yet - we have and they are starting to put the systems in place not far from us. Apparently the charge for emptying your bins and reclycling bins in general and the decheteries will all be changing. They say it will be deducted frol your THab. You have to fill in the form, then you will get...

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Gillet Jaune - I am sure they do sell them, but maybe not the type you want!

Love it - now on your wavelength :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: - no Amazon probably have one size fits all - not really my style :innocent: :innocent:
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Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:38 pm
Have you been radiated yet?

by Le Démerdeur » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:46 pm
Last post by just a Frenchie » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:11 am
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by Le Démerdeur » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:46 pm
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With the local elections looming have all the UK citizens on the forum recieved their letters of radiation telling them that they cannot vote? And more importantly were they sent by recorded delivery?

I recall some people got them the day after the final decision was made so I assume that they were not LRAR, whilst it is an official requirement I...

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Recently I recieved the tracte electorale for the équipe of my good friend that I hope will gain the next mandat, I was honoured to see that his final words were those which I had helped him select.

il n'y a rien de négatif dans le changement, si c'est dans la bonne direction Winston Churchill, homme de l'Etat britannique.

Presumably you have...
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:11 am
Credit Agricole need a moblie to access online banking

by landmannnn » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:55 pm
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by landmannnn » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:55 pm
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More complexity, CA need a mobile number to access online banking, giving a whole 7 days notice.

Really handy when they haven't got the right number, I can only change it by turning up at the bank and I am not in France until April.

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Just over a month later, after quite a bit of to and fro, got there! They have managed to add my UK mobile to the online banking at last.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:45 pm
sterling euro exchange rates

by PatF » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:16 pm
Last post by niemeyjt » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:28 pm
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by PatF » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:16 pm

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I still often check the exchange rate although we don't have a french bank account now.It's creeping up at the moment. But nothing like what it has been if you look at the 10 year graph:

What happened in 2015 which made it good for sterling?
As far as I remember it was good in 2006 too when we sold our first house in France.

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If you look at the Swiss Franc (what interests me) you will see that is also strengthening vs Euro - the issue is Eurozone weakness I think more that a new-found faith in Boris's economic acumen.

What happened in 2015 which made it good for sterling?

Prime Minister Ed Milliband didn't happen.

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Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:28 pm
Espace Particulier : Impots

by Leclairon » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:57 pm
Last post by Leclairon » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:46 am
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by Leclairon » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:57 pm

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I am just trying to sign up for my Espace Particulier and it keeps telling me my donnees are incorrect.

There seem to be only three figures to put in, to get past the first step in order, I think, to create a password:
Numero fiscal, No. d'Acces en ligne and Revenue fiscal de reference.
I have carefully put in each of the figures several times...

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Thanks. I'll have another look at that.
The 3 figures were taken off our last Avis and Declaration and were absolutely correct.

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Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:46 am
What do I do now about my old Enterprise

by billyboy47 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:03 pm
Last post by billyboy47 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:37 pm
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by billyboy47 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:03 pm

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To cut a long story short, I lived in France for 5 years, opened (on bad advice, French accountant of course) an Enterprise, not knowing what, if any income I would achieve from it. Upshot was, nothing to speek of. Due to my partners parents failing health we moved back to the UK in 2007 pretty rapidly. We made an appointment with another...

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Thanks Misty,

I have written two emails, one to the Chambre de Commerce in France and one to the UK website stating my concern, I will wait and see if they profer any advice. At least I am trying to get this sorted, I guess many do not.

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Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:37 pm
Transferwise delays

by Tom » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:29 pm
Last post by Simonflys » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:24 am
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by Tom » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:29 pm
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Has anyone else noticed that TW now seems to delay somewhat with forwarding €uros to French banks?

Yesterday, when the rates were good, I transferred some money from our UK bank to TW who acknowledged receipt almost immediately at 18.33 hrs. But they only sent it to our French bank at 13.16 hrs today. In January they received money at 11.25 hrs...

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Don't care - love em!! 👍👍
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Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:24 am
Rights over neighbour

by Timoth » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:13 pm
Last post by curtis » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:13 pm
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by Timoth » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:13 pm

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Could someone give me some advice, please?

My neighbour does not maintain his land. It is an eyesore about which the commune can do little, apparently, according to the mayor. But what are my rights as regards access to my house and garden walls where they border his land? Currently it is too overgrown and strewn with building materials and...

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What happened when you approached the owner to talk about what could be done ?

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Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:13 pm
Indesit Washing Machines

by Rosiegirl » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:27 pm
Last post by Rosiegirl » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:57 pm
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by Rosiegirl » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:27 pm
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Indesit UK has recalled 500,000 + washing machines which may have a fault which causes a fire. They have published a list of model numbers.

As chance would have it, our French washing machine died in the summer this year and we replaced it with (of course) an Indesit washing machine. I have the model number and serial number and although the...

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Not quite - you implied that all French machines would not be affected. All I know is that ours is not. That's not to say others may be.
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Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:57 pm
2020 Tax Simulators Online (2019 Revenue)

by Simonflys » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:31 am
Last post by Simonflys » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:20 pm
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by Simonflys » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:31 am

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The 2020 Tax simulators (for revenue / charges 2019) are all online:

Full list here:

Revenue / Social Charges here:

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Personally elsie I find the simulators really useful although I don't have any income taxed outside France - just a simple soul! I appreciate they're not for everyone, I was just trying to be helpful 🙄

I fully understand the simulator limitations around foreign income, especially that taxed outside France, however I'm satisfied with the...

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Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:20 pm
Online tax returns all versions are visible

by Polarengineer » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:21 pm
Last post by PatF » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:02 pm
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by Polarengineer » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:21 pm
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After completing the online tax form and not liking the predicted result, I tend to edit the form inputting amounts into different boxes to see a good result. My income is from different countries so it is not straightforward, even to the tax office. Interestingly, the tax inspector can recall all versions of the form and see exactly what I've...

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When we were resident in France I completed the UK tax return online for years. There was a bit of a problem at first , can't remember how we got round it.
We told HMRC when we came back to the UK, now it only applies to husband so he does it, thank goodness.
I used to dread the deadlines in Jan., and May for the french forms.
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Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:02 pm

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